Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition News and Article Release Issue Number: A409-O125

中国民主运动海外联席会议新闻与文章发布号：A409-O125

Release Date: August 18, 2008

发布日：2008年8月18日

Topic: Dalai Lama Discusses China and Tibet Issues with the Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition, Mayor of Nantes Invites Wei Jingsheng for lunch, as well as Attending Their Special Reception for the Dalai Lama

标题：达赖喇嘛与中国民主运动海外联席会议举行讨论会；南特市长邀请魏京生午餐及参加南特市政府的欢迎达赖喇嘛仪式

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Dalai Lama Discusses China and Tibet Issues with the Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition, Mayor of Nantes Invites Wei Jingsheng for lunch, as well as Attending Their Special Reception for the Dalai Lama

On August 17, 2008, during the Olympic Games in Beijing, The spiritual leader of Tibet, his holiness the Dalai Lama had a discussion meeting with Chinese democracy leader Wei Jingsheng and other representatives of the human rights and democracy movement from several countries, on the issues of Tibet and China. The meeting was held in Nantes, France, where the Dalai Lama is giving Buddhism teachings.

The Dalai Lama greeted the entire far away friends and urged for unity within the Chinese democracy movement. He said that right after 1989, he already told those people in exile that the exile would be a long and tough process. Now, we need more communication. Wei Jingsheng expressed that communication should be on all aspects. The various parties of the Chinese democracy movement had a conference just a day earlier and made a joint statement regarding 5 subjects. One of the most important declarations was to emphasize people have the right to resist violence. We all wish to solve various issues by peaceful means. However, the Chinese Communist government has blocked all the roads to peacefully solve social issues, including ethnic group issues, which has forced people to take desperate risks. We can only support the righteous struggle of people of various areas and various ethnic groups. We cannot stand on the opposite side of the people.

The Dalai Lama said that both Han Chinese and Tibetans have been living together for 2000 years now. Although he has expressed his stand in various places, from March 14 this year until after the Olympic torch relay, many people overseas protested him, which made him heartbroken. Wei Jingsheng said that those protestors are just a minority; most Han Chinese are sympathetic and understand the Tibetans' struggle for freedom.

The chairman of the Chinese Democratic Front, Wang GuoXing said, "We should forgive those youths who do not know either the history, or the truth well. What they received was only partial and misleading information, and I myself was one of them. If the Dalai Lama can resume confidence, we the Chinese democratic activists would also have more confidence."

The vice president of the Uyghur World Congress also expressed his organization's admiration to the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama recalled some historic exchanges between the Tibetans and Uyghur with enthusiasm.

The representative of Chinese Christians Zhang Jian told the Dalai Lama how he was wounded in June 4.

The editor of Epoch Times, Zhang Japing, gave an English version of "9 Commentaries on the Communist Party" to the Dalai Lama.

The well-known human rights activist Marie Holzman gave a tin of Chinese tea to the Dalai Lama.

The Dalai Lama suggested to Wei Jingsheng to communicate with Taiwan more. By pooling wisdom together, it would be better for the democracy. Both sides also exchanged their views on the recent developments.

Finally, the Dalai Lama summarized his own 3 points. The first is about freedom, which is a matter for the whole human race. The second is about harmony, that all the ethnic groups should live together in harmony. When he talked about "freedom" and "harmony", he particularly used Chinese. The third is about Tibet, of the fate of our people and our culture.

The meeting lasted for about 75 minutes.

On August 18, the mayor, and vice mayor, and the mayor's advisor of the city of Nantes invited Mr. Wei Jingsheng for lunch. They spent one and half-hours to talk about the situation in China, the Tibet issue, and the Georgia and East European situation.

Also on August 18, at 4pm, Mr. Wei was invited to attend the reception to welcome the Dalai Lama by the city of Nantes. During his speech, the Dalai Lama mentioned several times of the support of the Chinese people to the Tibetans, while waving his greetings to Mr. Wei.

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Related photos:

1. Dalai Lama's meeting with Wei Jingsheng and other democracy activists:

http://www.weijingsheng.org/pic/newsletters/newsletters2008/newsletters2008-8/DalaiLamaNantes080817WeiJSgroup-2.jpg

2. Dalai Lama presents Kata to Wei Jingsheng, chair of the Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition:

http://www.weijingsheng.org/pic/newsletters/newsletters2008/newsletters2008-8/DalaiLamaNantes080817WeiJSkata-c-2.jpg

3. Dalai Lama shakes hands with Wang GuoXing, chair of the Chinese Democratic Front:

http://www.weijingsheng.org/pic/newsletters/newsletters2008/newsletters2008-8/DalaiLamaNantes080817WangGX-c-3.jpg

4. The Dalai Lama greets vice president of the Uyghur World Congress:

http://www.weijingsheng.org/pic/newsletters/newsletters2008/newsletters2008-8/DalaiLamaNantes080817Uyghur-c-2.jpg

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Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition News and Article Release Issue Number: A409-O125

中国民主运动海外联席会议新闻与文章发布号：A409-O125

Release Date: August 18, 2008

发布日：2008年8月18日

标题：达赖喇嘛与中国民主运动海外联席会议举行讨论会；南特市长邀请魏京生午餐及参加南特市政府的欢迎达赖喇嘛仪式

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达赖喇嘛与中国民主运动海外联席会议举行讨论会

8月17日，正值北京奥运期间，在法国南特市讲法的西藏精神领袖达赖喇嘛邀请中国民主运动海外联席会议主席魏京生所带领的参加民运巴黎会议的各国及各方代表，就中国的前途和西藏问题进行了讨论。

达赖喇嘛表示非常欢迎来自各方的朋友，对来自各方的代表说海外民运要团结，89之后他就对流亡者们说过，流亡将是个漫长和艰辛的过程，如今我们更要多沟通。魏京生表示沟通需要在各方面全面进行。中国民运各方昨天在巴黎开会，我们对外发表了一个五点声明。其中最重要的一点就是强调人民有抗暴的权利。我们都希望以和平的方式解决各种问题。但是中共政权将所有和平解决社会问题包括民族问题的道路堵死，迫使人民铤而走险。我们只能支持包括各地区各民族人民的正义抗争，我们不会站在人民的对立面。

达赖喇嘛说，我们两个民族共同在一起生活了2000年。虽然他已经在各种场合表示了他的立场，可从314到奥运火炬之后，很多人在海外对他表示抗议，他感到很伤心。魏京生表示，抗议的只是一小部分人。大部分汉族人民对西藏人民争取自由的斗争是同情的和理解的。

民主中国阵线主席王国兴表示，要原谅那些年轻人。因为他们对历史真相不了解，他们接受的是片面的信息。我本人对西藏问题也有同样的心路历程。如果达赖喇嘛恢复信心，我们民运人士也会信心倍增。

一同参加会见的世界维吾尔青年大会副会长吐尔逊向达赖喇嘛转达了他所在的团体对达赖喇嘛的敬意。达赖喇嘛兴致勃勃地回顾了藏维两族的一些历史交往。

基督教会代表张建对达赖喇嘛讲述了他在六四事件中受伤的经历。

大纪元时报编辑张建平将一本英文版的九评送给了达赖喇嘛。

法国著名人权活动家玛丽侯芷明女士送给达赖喇嘛一罐中国茶叶。

达赖喇嘛对魏京生建议，说你应该与台湾方面多沟通。集思广益才能更好地推动民主事业。双方就近期的局势发展交流了看法。

最后达赖喇嘛总结性地表达了自己的三个观点，第一点是自由，这是整个人类的事情。第二是和谐，各族人民生活在一起一定要和谐。达赖喇嘛在讲到自由和和谐这两个单词时，特地使用了汉语。第三点是西藏，我关心我的人民和文化的命运。

会见时间大约75分钟。

18日中午。魏京生与南特市长、副市长和主任秘书共进了午餐。就中国局势、西藏问题和格鲁吉亚及东欧局势进行了一个半小时的讨论。

下午4点。魏京生出席了南特市举行的欢迎达赖喇嘛的仪式及招待会。达赖喇嘛在讲演中多次提到中国人民对西藏人民的支持，并向魏先生招手致意。

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民主中国阵线

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达赖喇嘛在南特会见魏京生等民运人士

（大纪元记者法国报道）来自魏京生基金会的消息。

8月17日12时半，正在法国南特市（Nantes）进行为期数日的传经大会的达赖喇嘛与中国民主运动海外联席会议主席魏京生等民运代表会晤，讨论了汉、藏人民团结、增进互相了解、反抗中共专制、争取自由等事宜。达赖喇嘛还介绍了他的三项个人义务。会谈气氛非常友好、轻松而认真，原本预定30分钟的会见进行了约70分钟。

会晤中，魏京生就一些重要话题与达赖喇嘛交换了意见。

参加会晤的还有长期关注中国人权的法国汉学家侯芷明、多名来自欧、美、澳的民运代表和大纪元编辑。

建立各民族统一民主阵线

会晤一开始，达赖喇嘛就表示，汉藏一定要大团结，否则不和谐、老在一起打斗，没什么好处。他还说，不管政府如何，我们人民之间，汉族、藏族和维族一定要非常的和谐，做好朋友。3月发生抗暴事件之后，我对不同的藏人和汉人说，我们应该设立一个组织，引导汉族和藏族等的和谐，建立争取自由的统一民主阵线。

民阵主席王国兴和基督教传道人张健表示，中国民众少有机会看到汉语的有关达赖喇嘛和西藏问题真实情况的资料，接触到的都是中共的污蔑之词，希望达赖喇嘛允许年轻人犯错误。他们还表示，了解真相的人们对达赖喇嘛的和平理念都表示支持和尊敬。

道德与信仰的重建

赖喇嘛嘛特别强调道德与信仰对人类社会幸福、和谐的重要，尤其大国更要有更高的道德。他说，中（共）国现在有了经济、原子弹、科技，但缺一样东西，就是道德。她表示，问题，他今后将在中国的道德与信仰的重建方面做更多的推动，这也是他最愿意做的事情。

达赖喇嘛郑重接下《九评共产党》

与会的大纪元记者向达赖喇嘛介绍说，《大纪元时报》是一家独立的报纸，做了很多关于中共践踏人权、迫害藏人、迫害民主人士、迫害法轮功学员、迫害基督徒和维族的报道，也做了很多在巴黎的藏人反中共迫害的活动的报道。

大纪元记者特别介绍了大纪元社论《九评共产党》，该社论揭露了中共迫害老百姓的所有罪行。《九评共产党》出版三年多来，我们做了很多努力，让中国老百姓了解这本书。今天，超过4000万中国民众声明退出中国共产党、共青团和“红小兵”。中国百姓了解中共本质后，会给中国带来很好的改变。

达赖喇嘛当即发表评论说，我们需要知道实际的情况，中共的宣传会蒙蔽我们的眼睛，可很多人内心是清楚的。“人民政府”，那人民不是最重要的吗？但13亿人民被九个人控制、被九个人压在下面。我们的流亡政府虽然只有（管辖）10万多人，但我们的制度也是靠群众选出我们的代表。

他接着评论道，共产党也努力很多，但它所能做的也仅此而已。它要是能变成民主最好，但它已成为共产一党独裁加经济上的资本主义，这很难持久。达赖喇嘛在8月13日在巴黎举行的记者会上表示了同样的看法。

他还表示，现在共产党耳朵听不太清楚，眼睛看不太清楚，已经快要退休了。有人插话说，那是它的末日到了。

达赖喇嘛的三项个人义务

会晤结束前，达赖喇嘛特别给大家做了一个自我介绍。他说，我有三项义务。第一，提倡基本人道价值，因为个人、家庭的幸福与此紧密相关，这与我的宗教事务无关，钱和教育是不够的，还要有内心的价值观。

第二，提倡各宗教间的宽容、和谐。所有宗教都提倡尊敬、友爱、帮助他人。如果不同宗教间有纷争，那是最令人难过的，所以我一定要促进宗教间的和谐。这两个义务我是完全自愿的，会致力一生。

第三个义务与西藏有关，不一定是自愿的。我的人民信任我，赋予我很大的责任，但从2001年（流亡政府）选举制度建立后，我就处于半退休状态，我希望以后完全退休。

达赖喇嘛与民运人士会后一致表示，要把今天会见的情况尽快让更多的华人知道，让他们了解西藏的真正情况。

会晤结束后，达赖喇嘛特意向每一位与会者赠送寓意吉祥如意的哈达，并和大家合影留念。

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