Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition News and Article Release Issue Number: A931-O260

中国民主运动海外联席会议新闻与文章发布号：A931-O260

Release Date: April 9, 2016

发布日：2016年4月9日

Topic: Voice of America's "Issues and Opinions" Program: Wei Jingsheng Talks About Xi Jinping's USA Visit and the Nuclear Policy of China

标题：美国之音“时事大家谈”：魏京生谈习近平访美和中国核政策

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Voice of America's "Issues and Opinions" Program: Wei Jingsheng Talks About Xi Jinping's USA Visit and the Nuclear Policy of China

-- by Bao Shen, Voice of America

March 31, 2016

Washington DC -- The 2016 Nuclear Security Summit will be held in the US Capital City, Washington, DC on March 31 and April 1. Leaders of many countries, including Chinese President Xi Jinping, will attend the conference. The Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition and other Chinese dissidents and Tibetan human rights activists will gather in these two days to protest against the Chinese Communist regime's human rights violations in China and Tibet, and to demand the Chinese government to ensure nuclear safety and stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons over the years. Today, the "Issues and Opinion" program invited Wei Jingsheng, the Chairman of the Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition, to talk about his views of Xi Jinping's visit and China's nuclear policy.

Wei Jingsheng thinks that the last two years' response of Beijing to the Kim Jong-un regime in North Korea could be summarized in one sentence -- "overwhelmed without knowing what to do". The Chinese government has nurtured North Korea into a nuclear weapons state. However, unlike his father, Kim Jong-un is uncontrollable by China, and even has targeted Beijing.

The nearest North Korean nuclear test site is only a dozen kilometers away from China. If the nuclear test is carried out, diffusion radioactivity will be floating into China. Wei Jingsheng expressed that the government of any country would have a very strong reaction if that happened. The current regime of Kim Jong-un may be said to have entered a "crazy state." A responsible approach for the Chinese government is to take stringent measures against Kim Jong-un.

The so-called "declining influence" of the Chinese government over the North Korean regime is due to the many pro-North Korean officials within the Chinese Communist Party. They have great influence. These officials are mostly older. They form a strong pro-North Korean clique within the Chinese government when the North Korean issue is discussed. Therefore, the so-called "declining influence" is due to the indeterminacy of the Chinese government. If they really made up their mind, China has a lot of ways to deal with North Korea.

Some international experts on China have said that the Chinese government is worried that once the North Korean government collapses, there will be unrest in the Korean Peninsula. Wei Jingsheng thinks that this is an excuse made by the above-mentioned "pro-North Korean clique". What the Chinese government fears is that once it loses North Korea as its little brother, it is going to have a hard time to play dangerous tricks in international affairs. However, even with the collapse of the Kim regime, North Korea is still very far away from a democratic society; so these fears seem superfluous.

Wei Jingsheng thinks that there is only one way for North Korea to become "denuclearized": by China or the United States using military power to remove North Korea's nuclear weapons directly. The possibility of North Korea giving up nuclear weapons voluntarily is unlikely. He thinks that the US government is currently beginning to understand that the Chinese government should be forced to take tough measures.

Regarding Xi Jinping's attendance at the Nuclear Security Summit held in Washington DC, Wei Jingsheng thinks that the possibility of Xi Jinping and Obama reaching a consensus is very small. That is because Xi Jinping is not yet determined to take certain measures; thus what he could really talk with President Obama about is going to be rather limited. Currently, the pro-North Korea's clique within the Chinese Communist Party is a quite strong force that can limit Xi Jinping.

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Overseas Chinese Democracy Coalition News and Article Release Issue Number: A931-O260

中国民主运动海外联席会议新闻与文章发布号：A931-O260

Release Date: April 9, 2016

发布日：2016年4月9日

Topic: Voice of America's "Issues and Opinions" Program: Wei Jingsheng Talks About Xi Jinping's USA Visit and the Nuclear Policy of China

标题：美国之音“时事大家谈”：魏京生谈习近平访美和中国核政策

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美国之音时事大家谈：魏京生谈习近平访美和中国核政策

-- 宝申

最后更新 2016.03.31 05:14

华盛顿--2016年核安全峰会将于3月31日和4月1日在美国首都华盛顿举行。包括中国国家主席习近平在内的许多国家的领导人将出席这次会议。中国民主运动海外联席会议及其他中国民运人士和西藏人权活动人士将在这两天举行集会，抗议中共在中国和西藏侵犯人权的行为，并要求中国政府确保核安全并停止其多年来的核武器扩散。今天的时事大家谈节目邀请中国民主运动海外联席会议主席魏京生，谈谈他对习近平此次访美和中国核政策的看法。

魏京生认为，北京这两年对金正恩政权的反应，可用一句话概括--"不知所措"。中国政府培植出朝鲜这个有核武国家，如今掌权的金正恩却不同于其父，不受中国控制，甚至可说将矛头对准了北京。

朝鲜的核试验场离中国的最近距离仅十几公里，若进行核实验，扩散物将飘至中国。魏京生表示，任何一个国家的政府，对此都会有非常强烈的反应。目前的金正恩政权，可说已进入"疯狂状态"。中国政府应采取严厉手段对付金正恩，才是负责任的作法。

中国政府现在所谓的"影响力下降"，是由于在朝鲜问题上，党内有许多亲朝鲜的官员，而他们有很大的影响力。这些官员多半较年长，在中国政府讨论朝鲜问题时，形成了亲朝鲜的强烈团体。因此，所谓"影响力下降"，是由于中国政府内部下不了决心。如果真下了决心，中国有非常多的手段对付朝鲜。

一些中国的国际问题专家说，中国担心一旦北韩政府垮台，朝鲜半岛将出现动乱。魏京生认为，这是上述提到的"亲朝鲜的利益集团"制造的借口。中国政府担心的是，一旦失去朝鲜这个小兄弟，想在国际中玩弄危险招数就不那么容易了。但是，即便金氏政权垮台，朝鲜距离民主社会仍十分遥远，因此这些担心显得多余。

魏京生认为，若要朝鲜"无核化"，只有一个办法：由中国或美国出兵，拿掉朝鲜的核武器。要朝鲜自动放弃核武器的可能性微乎其微。他认为美国政府目前逐渐明白这一点，了解到应该逼着中国政府采取强硬措施。

习近平即将参加在华盛顿举办的核峰会。魏京生认为，习近平与奥巴马达成一致意见的可能性非常小，因为习近平目前还无法下定决心采取某些措施，因此与奥巴马实际能谈的相当有限。亲朝鲜的利益集团目前在中共党内相当有力量，能够限制习近平。

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