Wei
Jingsheng Foundation News and Article Release Issue: A1170-W799
魏京生基金会新闻与文章发布号：A1170-W799
Release
Date: December 23, 2018
发布日：2018年12月23日
Topic:
Chen Xiaoping of the MingJing News, Interviews Wei Jingsheng: The Emergence and
Disappearance of the Democracy Wall
标题：明镜编辑部陈小平专访魏京生：民主墙的出现与消失--它与中共党内斗争是什么关系？
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Chen
Xiaoping of the MingJing News, Interviews Wei Jingsheng: The Emergence and
Disappearance of the Democracy Wall -- What Was Its Relationship with the CCP's
Internal Struggle?
At
11am on December 17, 2018 (12:00 am on December 18, Beijing time), Chen
Xiaoping, the host of the MingJing News, invited Wei Jingsheng, as the main
participant of the Democracy Wall, to talk about the Democracy Wall 40 years
ago. The main issues discussed in
the one-hour TV show were:
1.
How did the Democracy Wall emerge?
2.
How did the Democracy Wall disappear?
3.
Who were the main players in the Democracy Wall?
4.
What was the fate of the Democracy Wall participants?
5.
How to summarize of the Democracy Wall 40 years later?
The
YouTube link to this TV show is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xurxg_DNbgc
which
has received more than 22,200 hits and many praises. Here are a few highlights from the discussion:
02:50
The appearance of the Xidan Democracy Wall is related to petitioning. Deng Xiaoping used the Democracy Wall
to defeat Hua Guofeng. Wei
Jingsheng later published a big character poster appealing for the "Fifth
Modernization -- Democracy" and was arrested. The Democracy Wall prompted the formation of Deng Xiaoping's
opposition within the Communist Party.
15:00
At the beginning, Hu Yaobang and Chen Yun opposed the execution of Wei
Jingsheng. Many people within the
Communist Party realized they should not let Deng Xiaoping become a one person
dictatorship. In the end, Wei
Jingsheng was only sentenced to 15 years.
When Wei Jingsheng was detained by the plainclothes police, he asked the
young people nearby to report the arrest at the Democracy Wall.
24:15
At that time, Hu Ping, Wang Juntao, and others created many journals, such as
Beijing Spring, etc. These people
participated at the Democracy Wall earlier than Wei Jingsheng. The Democracy Wall was the punching bag
for ordinary people to get relief.
32:47
There was no discussion within the participants of the Democracy Wall about the
nature of the Democracy Wall.
Participants in the joint meeting of the Democracy Wall did not reach an
agreement. At that time, there
were also many people who opposed Wei Jingsheng's participation in the
Democracy Wall and cut ties with him.
42:00
The impact of discussions on the Democracy Wall had created new Democracy Walls
around the world. The Formosa
Incident in Taiwan learnt from the Democracy Wall in Beijing. Sun Yat-sen lead China to a democratic
society, and the Democracy Wall has brought China back to democracy. The 1989 democracy movement in China
revealed that the reformists within the Communist leadership were not very
reliable, and democratization in China still relies on the power from the
Chinese civilians.
?
The
following are the top 24 comments reacted to the interview:
1:
Lao Wei, the old predecessor of the Chinese democracy movement, I wish you good
health!
2:
When I was young, I knew that Wei Jingsheng was a hero. Today, I respect Mr. Wei even more! ! !
3:
The Xidan Democracy Wall opened my mind.
I was thinking about why such "a great party and such great
leaders" could turn China into the edge of economic collapse? We need a multi-party system with
restriction of each other to assure that our country and people would not
suffer such a great disaster!
4:
I want to pay tribute to Old Wei and Juntao -- the pioneers of modern Chinese
democracy! ! !
5:
The Cultural Revolution had the internal fights within the Communist leadership
in the open, but now it is through brutal means including assassination!
6:
Very good interview.
7:
Thank you Xiaoping! To let Lao Wei
and us recall that era of passion and encouragement...
8:
Old Wei, no matter what others say, we always support you!
9:
We cannot forget the past! We need
all the Chinese to strive for a democratic, free and legal system.
10:
Old Wei, the old predecessor of the Chinese democracy movement, I wish you good
health!
11:
Old Wei has a vision in his thought, it seems that Old Wei wants to hand over
the task to brother Juntao!
12:
I listened twice and I had different reactions ~ Thank you Mr. Wei for your
dedication. It's great to have
you!
13:
Old Wei should not have regrets in his life, after these brilliant years, he
lived a life really worth it!
14:
I finally learnt a lot of truths, thank you very much and admire Mr. Wei's
dedication and contribution.
15:
A Chinese democracy warrior.
16:
Wei Jingsheng is old and strong, and should be able to go for thousands miles!
17:
Mr. Wei is a gem of Chinese democracy.
I hope he could give a systematic summary both theoretically and
practically, and to contribute to democracy to humans, especially to the more
than one billion Chinese. When the
Chinese democratic process turns into a hurricane, it would not only be the
sorrow of the Chinese people, but also the sorrow of mankind.
18:
At45:50, what Old Wei said was right, which is the United States helped the
abuses in China!
19:
The old gentleman is really easy to understand. He really knows more than many experts
20:
Greetings to Mr. Wei. You must
take care of your health!
21:
The most unforgivable thing Hua Guofeng did was to build the Memorial Hall of
Mao Zedong in Tiananmen Square.
22:
Lao Wei is a well-deserved contemporary Chinese national hero!
23:
He was very handsome when he was young.
24:
This interview of Old Wei is very good, especially in the last 10 minutes,
every sentence hits right.
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Wei
Jingsheng Foundation News and Article Release Issue: A1170-W799
魏京生基金会新闻与文章发布号：A1170-W799
Release
Date: December 23, 2018
发布日：2018年12月23日
Topic:
Chen Xiaoping of the MingJing News, Interviews Wei Jingsheng: The Emergence and
Disappearance of the Democracy Wall
标题：明镜编辑部陈小平专访魏京生：民主墙的出现与消失--它与中共党内斗争是什么关系？
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明镜编辑部陈小平专访魏京生：民主墙的出现与消失--它与中共党内斗争是什么关系？
2018年12月17日上午11点（北京时间12月18日凌晨12点），明镜火拍主持人陈小平特邀嘉宾魏京生作为民主墙的主要参与者谈40年前的民主墙。一小时电视节目中主要讨论的问题为：
1. 民主墙是如何出现的？
2. 民主墙是如何消失的？
3. 民主墙的主要参与者是谁？
4. 民主墙参与者的命运。
5.
40年后看民主墙的总结。
这次的电视节目YouTube的链接为：
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xurxg_DNbgc
目前已收到两万两千多的点击，及众多好评。以下为讨论中的几个要点：
02:50
西单民主墙的出现是与上访有关，邓小平利用民主墙打倒了华国锋。魏京生后来在上面发表大字报要求第五个"现代化"，然后因此被捕。民主墙促使党内形成了邓小平的反对派。
15:00
当初胡耀邦和陈云反对将魏京生处死，党内也有很多人意识到不能让邓小平一个人说的算。最后只判了15年，当初被便衣警察抓的时候魏让旁边的年轻人去民主墙报案。
24:15
当初胡平，王军涛等人创建了许多期刊，例如北京之春等。这些人比魏京生进入民主墙的时间都要早。民主墙就是普通百姓的出气筒。
32:47
民主墙的参与者内部并没有关于民主墙其本质的讨论。民主墙的联席会议的参会者也没有达成一致，当时也有很多人反对魏京生加入民主墙活动并与他做切割。
42:00
海外讨论民主墙的影响让世界各地都涌现了新的民主墙。台湾的美丽岛运动就是学习的民主墙。孙中山将中国引向民主社会，民主墙又让中国重新走向民主。89年之后中共内部的改革派不是很可靠，民主化还是要靠民间力量。
以下为前24个评论：
1：老魏，中国民主运动的老前辈，祝您身体健康！
2：小时候就知道魏京生是英雄，今天更敬重魏先生了！！！
3：我就是通过西单民主墙开智，当时一直在想为什么被宣传成这么伟大的党和这么伟大的领袖，怎么会把国家搞成经济崩溃的边缘，就是要多党制，互相制约，才能使国家和人民不至于遭受这么大的灾难！
4：向老魏，军涛这批中国现代民主先驱致敬！！！
5：文革，那是明打明斗；现在是暗斗暗杀手段残忍呀！
6：很好的访谈。
7：谢谢小平！让老魏和我们一起回忆那个激情澎拜的年代......
8：老魏，不管别人说什么，我们都始终如一的支持你！
9：不能忘记过去！民主自由法制靠每一个中国人去争取。
10：老魏，中国民主运动的老前辈，祝您身体健康！
11：老魏有见地，看来老魏想把接力棒交给军涛哥哥了！
12：聽了兩次，有不同的感受～謝謝魏先生的付出，有您真好！
13：老魏一生无憾，歷經此等光輝歲月，值！
14：终于了解很多真相，非常感谢和敬佩魏先生的付出和贡献。
15：中国民主勇士。
16：魏京生老當益壯，老驥伏櫪志在千里啊！
17：魏先生是中国民主的瑰宝，希望能从理论和实践方面进行系统总结，为人类民主特别是十几亿中国人做出贡献。当中国民主进程变成腥风血雨时，不仅是中国人民的悲哀，也是人类的悲哀。
18：45:50
老魏这句话说的太对了，就是美国在助纣为虐！
19：老先生说话真的是通俗易懂。确比很多的专家都认识的深刻。
20：魏先生好，您一定要保重身体！
21：华国锋最不可原谅的是在广场建毛太祖纪念堂。
22：老魏是当之无愧的当代中国民族英雄！
23：年轻的时候很帅啊。
24：老魏这期很有水平，特别是后面10几分钟，句句到位。
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